Post by needle on Sept 10, 2017 20:23:57 GMT
All items FAILED to pass Althing.
Issue 1: FAIL
Y:21
N:32
A: 5
Issue 2: FAIL
Y: 19
N: 34
A: 5
Issue 3: FAIL
Y:19
N: 35
A: 4
8 parks sent in votes.
#Althing
Kingdom of Goldenvale September Althing, votes due 9/16/17 by 11:59 PM.
3 Items to be voted on my Core Lands.
Exact Proposals in Brackets: [ ]
********To be voted on in September
#Corelands
****Issue 1
[Remove the following:
4.2.1.a.c.
4.2.1.a.d.
4.2.2.
]
Originally posted by David Syas.
Althing Proposal:
Remove the following:
4.2.1.a.c.
4.2.1.a.d.
4.2.2.
This would allow any group to become a Core Land. This would also remove Associated Lands, as they would now be pointless.
Change 4.2.1.d to read:
"After a majority vote in favor of following either the Kingdom Corpora, or Principality Corpora if in a Principality, a chapter must follow that Corpora for at least one year prior to becoming a Core Land."
Change 4.2.1.e to read:
"Upon one year of sponsorship and following the Kingdom Corpora, or Principality Corpora if in a Principality, a majority vote by a chapter’s Local Althing shall determine whether they become a Core Land or not. If the chapter chooses to become a Core Land, they are entitled to all benefits of such status. There is no vote by the Kingdom Althing to confirm this status."
Change 4.2.5 to read:
"Core Lands must continue to follow their governing Corpora. Governing corporas, such as the Kingdom of Goldenvale Corpora, or a Principality Corpora, can only be changed by an appropriate level althing. Local althings may waive the bylaws in their governing corpora as necessary for the odd situation that arises, but doing so may result in penalties from their Principality and/or Kingdom. It is recommended that the chapter speak with the Principality or Kingdom Monarch and Prime Minister before allowing any exceptions to these Bylaws."
Add 4.2.6
"Kingdom Officer Elections and Kingdom Althings always follow the rules in the Kingdom of Goldenvale Corpora, even when dealing with candidates or voters from Principality Core Lands."
Finally, as an addendum to this list, put forward the motion that any current Associated Land group can choose to become a Core Land group at this time, waiving the one year restriction provided they immediately adopt an appropriate governing corpora (Kingdom or Nine Blades). This is a one time exception to the time frame to make sure our existing Associated Lands are not left out in the cold.
****Issue 2
(PM Note: The Amendment is made via a collaboration with Dan Clarke. The proposal is being proposed on behalf of Dan Clarke by myself (Joshua Jones) and Jake Meder.)
Proposal: Removal of Knights' Belts
Amended Proposal:
[Add the following:
3.3.8: The Circle of Knights may strip knighthood, one or multiple, from a player with a two-thirds majority vote of the Circle.
3.3.8.1: A vote to strip a person of knighthood may not be called again within 12 months. An exception to this may be made by the Guildmaster of Knights should substantively new charges or incidents come to light.]
Originally posted by Dan Clarke:
EDITED: allowed the Guildmaster of Knights to make an exception to the limit on votes, per Kate's suggestion.
Presently there are only two avenues for removal of a Knight's belt:
1) The Monarch may strip the belt, with agreement of another officer and the Althing, for proven violations of a number of our documents or policies.
2) The Althing may enact anything it wants, including removal of honours.
It is common throughout Amtgard for the Circle of Knights to have this ability as well to ensure the Circle's quality.
This would require a change to the Goldenvale Corpora in an additional clause:
3.3.8: The Circle of Knights may strip knighthood from a player with a supermajority vote (66%) of the Circle.
3.3.8.1: A vote to strip this Knight of peerage may not be called again within 12 months. An exception to this may be made by the Guildmaster of Knights should substantively new charges or incidents come to light
****Issue 3
(PM Note: The Amendment is made via a collaboration with Dan Clarke. The proposal is being proposed on behalf of Dan Clarke by myself (Joshua Jones) and Jake Meder.)
Proposal:
Amended Proposal:
[@change the following:
2.2.11.e: May grant knighthood as per the Rules of Play.
~to
2.2.11.e: May grant knighthood as per the Rules of Play, at the approval of the Circle of Knights (per 3.3.3).
3.3.3: May discuss players who are eligible for knighthood.
~to
3.3.3: Must vote, at the Monarch’s request, in favor or against the granting of knighthood to a candidate of the Monarch’s choosing.
3.3.3.a: A vote will be called by the Monarch through the Guildmaster of Knights, who must present the Circle of Knights with the vote within 24 hours of receipt.
3.3.3.b: The vote will remain open until 11:59PM on the seventh day after the vote is opened to the Circle.
3.3.3.c: A vote is considered to have passed if more than 50% of knights active at time of vote closing are in favour.
3.3.3.c.a: Activity requirements for knights are defined as having signed in 8 weeks in the last 6 months in any park in the Kingdom
@add:
3.3.6.1: The Guildmaster of Knights will also announce the results of a Knighting vote to the Kingdom before the end of the Monarch's term in which the vote occurred, with preference being that the results be presented as soon as possible but acknowledging that Monarchs often prefer to announce Knightings on their own terms. These results should be a simple "pass" or "fail" from the Circle of Knights, acknowledge whether or not a Monarch requested the vote. The Guildmaster should likewise give any feedback for the candidate offered by the Circle directly to that candidate at that time.
]
Originally posted by Dan Clarke:
Proposal: A Change to the Role of the Circle of Knights in Goldenvale.
EDITED TO INCLUDE: Activity requirements (3.3.3.c.a.)
EDITED TO ADD: Timeline for proposal effect
EDITED TO ADD: Guildmaster of Knights responsibility
As a check-and-balance system for the autocratic current ability of the Goldenvale Kingdom Monarch to grant Knighthoods, this proposal institutes a requirement for a “passing” (>50%) vote amongst active Knights on the Circle in order for a belt to be awarded to a player in Goldenvale.
This reflects the requirements of 28% of Amtgard already, and more than 50% of recent Kingdoms; this would bring us more in line with the direction Amtgard is headed in and strengthen our Kingdom's ability to produce quality Knights as we move forward.
This requires two changes to the present Goldenvale Corpora, which (EDITED) I would like to propose go into effect at the beginning of the next Monarch's reign (starting in September 2017):
==
2.2.11.e: May grant knighthood as per the Rules of Play.
changed to
2.2.11.e: May grant knighthood as per the Rules of Play, at the approval of the Circle of Knights (per 3.3.3).
==
3.3.3: May discuss players who are eligible for knighthood.
changed to
3.3.3: Must vote, at the Monarch’s request, in favor or against the granting of knighthood to a candidate of the Monarch’s choosing.
3.3.3.a: A vote will be called by the Monarch through the Guildmaster of Knights, who must present the Circle of Knights with the vote within 24 hours of receipt.
3.3.3.b: The vote will remain open until midnight on the seventh day after the vote is opened to the Circle.
3.3.3.c: A vote is considered to have passed if more than 50% of knights active at time of vote closing are in favour.
3.3.3.c.a: Activity requirements for knights are defined as having signed in 8 weeks in the last 6 months in any park in the Kingdom.
==
add:
3.3.6.1: The Guildmaster of Knights will also announce the results of a Knighting vote to the Kingdom before the end of the Monarch's term in which the vote occurred, with preference being that the results be presented as soon as possible but acknowledging that Monarchs often prefer to announce Knightings on their own terms. These results should be a simple "pass" or "fail" from the Circle of Knights, acknowledge whether or not a Monarch requested the vote. The Guildmaster should likewise give any feedback for the candidate offered by the Circle directly to that candidate at that time.
==
Discovery/Research for this is available here:
docs.google.com/…/1j7TAa7dCidNsMD2lyYFWtcoDJejRjGhBiN…/edit…
******** To be voted on in October
#AllLands
***Issue 1:
Kingdom Midreign Bid Voting
#CoreLands
****Issue 2:
By Eric Riddle
[
Change:
4.2.1.f
If a chapter chooses to remove its Core Land status, it may not become a Core Land again for at least six months. A majority vote in favor from both its Local Althing and the Kingdom Althing shall be required for said status to be bestowed again
To:
4.2.1.f
If a chapter chooses to remove its Core Land status, it may not become a Core Land again for at least one year. A majority vote in favor from both its Local Althing and the Kingdom Althing shall be required for said status to be bestowed again
]
I believe there should be a change in our current Corpora. I feel that why should a park that is willing gives up their Core Land Status be able to get it back if they choose to in six months, when a sponsored land must wait 1 year. This is also because 4.2.1.c, states a chapter must be sponsored by the Kingdom for at least one year prior to becoming a Core Land. So, if a park lowers its status they should have to wait just as long if not longer to get it back.
I Propose
To Change:
4.2.1.f
If a chapter chooses to remove its Core Land status, it may not become a Core Land again for at least six months. A majority vote in favor from both its Local Althing and the Kingdom Althing shall be required for said status to be bestowed again
To:
4.2.1.f
If a chapter chooses to remove its Core Land status, it may not become a Core Land again for at least one year. A majority vote in favor from both its Local Althing and the Kingdom Althing shall be required for said status to be bestowed again.
Issue 1: FAIL
Y:21
N:32
A: 5
Issue 2: FAIL
Y: 19
N: 34
A: 5
Issue 3: FAIL
Y:19
N: 35
A: 4
8 parks sent in votes.
#Althing
Kingdom of Goldenvale September Althing, votes due 9/16/17 by 11:59 PM.
3 Items to be voted on my Core Lands.
Exact Proposals in Brackets: [ ]
********To be voted on in September
#Corelands
****Issue 1
[Remove the following:
4.2.1.a.c.
4.2.1.a.d.
4.2.2.
]
Originally posted by David Syas.
Althing Proposal:
Remove the following:
4.2.1.a.c.
4.2.1.a.d.
4.2.2.
This would allow any group to become a Core Land. This would also remove Associated Lands, as they would now be pointless.
Change 4.2.1.d to read:
"After a majority vote in favor of following either the Kingdom Corpora, or Principality Corpora if in a Principality, a chapter must follow that Corpora for at least one year prior to becoming a Core Land."
Change 4.2.1.e to read:
"Upon one year of sponsorship and following the Kingdom Corpora, or Principality Corpora if in a Principality, a majority vote by a chapter’s Local Althing shall determine whether they become a Core Land or not. If the chapter chooses to become a Core Land, they are entitled to all benefits of such status. There is no vote by the Kingdom Althing to confirm this status."
Change 4.2.5 to read:
"Core Lands must continue to follow their governing Corpora. Governing corporas, such as the Kingdom of Goldenvale Corpora, or a Principality Corpora, can only be changed by an appropriate level althing. Local althings may waive the bylaws in their governing corpora as necessary for the odd situation that arises, but doing so may result in penalties from their Principality and/or Kingdom. It is recommended that the chapter speak with the Principality or Kingdom Monarch and Prime Minister before allowing any exceptions to these Bylaws."
Add 4.2.6
"Kingdom Officer Elections and Kingdom Althings always follow the rules in the Kingdom of Goldenvale Corpora, even when dealing with candidates or voters from Principality Core Lands."
Finally, as an addendum to this list, put forward the motion that any current Associated Land group can choose to become a Core Land group at this time, waiving the one year restriction provided they immediately adopt an appropriate governing corpora (Kingdom or Nine Blades). This is a one time exception to the time frame to make sure our existing Associated Lands are not left out in the cold.
****Issue 2
(PM Note: The Amendment is made via a collaboration with Dan Clarke. The proposal is being proposed on behalf of Dan Clarke by myself (Joshua Jones) and Jake Meder.)
Proposal: Removal of Knights' Belts
Amended Proposal:
[Add the following:
3.3.8: The Circle of Knights may strip knighthood, one or multiple, from a player with a two-thirds majority vote of the Circle.
3.3.8.1: A vote to strip a person of knighthood may not be called again within 12 months. An exception to this may be made by the Guildmaster of Knights should substantively new charges or incidents come to light.]
Originally posted by Dan Clarke:
EDITED: allowed the Guildmaster of Knights to make an exception to the limit on votes, per Kate's suggestion.
Presently there are only two avenues for removal of a Knight's belt:
1) The Monarch may strip the belt, with agreement of another officer and the Althing, for proven violations of a number of our documents or policies.
2) The Althing may enact anything it wants, including removal of honours.
It is common throughout Amtgard for the Circle of Knights to have this ability as well to ensure the Circle's quality.
This would require a change to the Goldenvale Corpora in an additional clause:
3.3.8: The Circle of Knights may strip knighthood from a player with a supermajority vote (66%) of the Circle.
3.3.8.1: A vote to strip this Knight of peerage may not be called again within 12 months. An exception to this may be made by the Guildmaster of Knights should substantively new charges or incidents come to light
****Issue 3
(PM Note: The Amendment is made via a collaboration with Dan Clarke. The proposal is being proposed on behalf of Dan Clarke by myself (Joshua Jones) and Jake Meder.)
Proposal:
Amended Proposal:
[@change the following:
2.2.11.e: May grant knighthood as per the Rules of Play.
~to
2.2.11.e: May grant knighthood as per the Rules of Play, at the approval of the Circle of Knights (per 3.3.3).
3.3.3: May discuss players who are eligible for knighthood.
~to
3.3.3: Must vote, at the Monarch’s request, in favor or against the granting of knighthood to a candidate of the Monarch’s choosing.
3.3.3.a: A vote will be called by the Monarch through the Guildmaster of Knights, who must present the Circle of Knights with the vote within 24 hours of receipt.
3.3.3.b: The vote will remain open until 11:59PM on the seventh day after the vote is opened to the Circle.
3.3.3.c: A vote is considered to have passed if more than 50% of knights active at time of vote closing are in favour.
3.3.3.c.a: Activity requirements for knights are defined as having signed in 8 weeks in the last 6 months in any park in the Kingdom
@add:
3.3.6.1: The Guildmaster of Knights will also announce the results of a Knighting vote to the Kingdom before the end of the Monarch's term in which the vote occurred, with preference being that the results be presented as soon as possible but acknowledging that Monarchs often prefer to announce Knightings on their own terms. These results should be a simple "pass" or "fail" from the Circle of Knights, acknowledge whether or not a Monarch requested the vote. The Guildmaster should likewise give any feedback for the candidate offered by the Circle directly to that candidate at that time.
]
Originally posted by Dan Clarke:
Proposal: A Change to the Role of the Circle of Knights in Goldenvale.
EDITED TO INCLUDE: Activity requirements (3.3.3.c.a.)
EDITED TO ADD: Timeline for proposal effect
EDITED TO ADD: Guildmaster of Knights responsibility
As a check-and-balance system for the autocratic current ability of the Goldenvale Kingdom Monarch to grant Knighthoods, this proposal institutes a requirement for a “passing” (>50%) vote amongst active Knights on the Circle in order for a belt to be awarded to a player in Goldenvale.
This reflects the requirements of 28% of Amtgard already, and more than 50% of recent Kingdoms; this would bring us more in line with the direction Amtgard is headed in and strengthen our Kingdom's ability to produce quality Knights as we move forward.
This requires two changes to the present Goldenvale Corpora, which (EDITED) I would like to propose go into effect at the beginning of the next Monarch's reign (starting in September 2017):
==
2.2.11.e: May grant knighthood as per the Rules of Play.
changed to
2.2.11.e: May grant knighthood as per the Rules of Play, at the approval of the Circle of Knights (per 3.3.3).
==
3.3.3: May discuss players who are eligible for knighthood.
changed to
3.3.3: Must vote, at the Monarch’s request, in favor or against the granting of knighthood to a candidate of the Monarch’s choosing.
3.3.3.a: A vote will be called by the Monarch through the Guildmaster of Knights, who must present the Circle of Knights with the vote within 24 hours of receipt.
3.3.3.b: The vote will remain open until midnight on the seventh day after the vote is opened to the Circle.
3.3.3.c: A vote is considered to have passed if more than 50% of knights active at time of vote closing are in favour.
3.3.3.c.a: Activity requirements for knights are defined as having signed in 8 weeks in the last 6 months in any park in the Kingdom.
==
add:
3.3.6.1: The Guildmaster of Knights will also announce the results of a Knighting vote to the Kingdom before the end of the Monarch's term in which the vote occurred, with preference being that the results be presented as soon as possible but acknowledging that Monarchs often prefer to announce Knightings on their own terms. These results should be a simple "pass" or "fail" from the Circle of Knights, acknowledge whether or not a Monarch requested the vote. The Guildmaster should likewise give any feedback for the candidate offered by the Circle directly to that candidate at that time.
==
Discovery/Research for this is available here:
docs.google.com/…/1j7TAa7dCidNsMD2lyYFWtcoDJejRjGhBiN…/edit…
******** To be voted on in October
#AllLands
***Issue 1:
Kingdom Midreign Bid Voting
#CoreLands
****Issue 2:
By Eric Riddle
[
Change:
4.2.1.f
If a chapter chooses to remove its Core Land status, it may not become a Core Land again for at least six months. A majority vote in favor from both its Local Althing and the Kingdom Althing shall be required for said status to be bestowed again
To:
4.2.1.f
If a chapter chooses to remove its Core Land status, it may not become a Core Land again for at least one year. A majority vote in favor from both its Local Althing and the Kingdom Althing shall be required for said status to be bestowed again
]
I believe there should be a change in our current Corpora. I feel that why should a park that is willing gives up their Core Land Status be able to get it back if they choose to in six months, when a sponsored land must wait 1 year. This is also because 4.2.1.c, states a chapter must be sponsored by the Kingdom for at least one year prior to becoming a Core Land. So, if a park lowers its status they should have to wait just as long if not longer to get it back.
I Propose
To Change:
4.2.1.f
If a chapter chooses to remove its Core Land status, it may not become a Core Land again for at least six months. A majority vote in favor from both its Local Althing and the Kingdom Althing shall be required for said status to be bestowed again
To:
4.2.1.f
If a chapter chooses to remove its Core Land status, it may not become a Core Land again for at least one year. A majority vote in favor from both its Local Althing and the Kingdom Althing shall be required for said status to be bestowed again.