Post by needle on Nov 2, 2017 22:26:11 GMT
#Althing Results
All Items Pass
Issue 1:
Y: 30
N:10
A: 5
Issue 2:
Y: 17
N: 11
A: 6
Issue 3:
Y: 25
N: 8
A: 4
6 Parks reporting in.
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Kingdom of Goldenvale October Althing, votes due 10/21/17 by 11:59 PM.
3 Items to be voted on my Core Lands.
(There are two items not listed here that people may be expecting, please see the PM notes at the end of the Althing about them.)
Exact Proposals in Brackets: [ ]
******** To be voted on in October
#AllLands
***Issue 1
Boreal Dale has petitioned to regain Core Land status and require a kingdom Althing vote per corpora rule 4.2.1.f.
All lands are able to vote on this.
#CoreLands
****Issue 2
By Eric Riddle
[
Change:
4.2.1.f
If a chapter chooses to remove its Core Land status, it may not become a Core Land again for at least six months. A majority vote in favor from both its Local Althing and the Kingdom Althing shall be required for said status to be bestowed again
To:
4.2.1.f
If a chapter chooses to remove its Core Land status, it may not become a Core Land again for at least one year. A majority vote in favor from both its Local Althing and the Kingdom Althing shall be required for said status to be bestowed again
]
I believe there should be a change in our current Corpora. I feel that why should a park that is willing gives up their Core Land Status be able to get it back if they choose to in six months, when a sponsored land must wait 1 year. This is also because 4.2.1.c, states a chapter must be sponsored by the Kingdom for at least one year prior to becoming a Core Land. So, if a park lowers its status they should have to wait just as long if not longer to get it back.
I Propose
To Change:
4.2.1.f
If a chapter chooses to remove its Core Land status, it may not become a Core Land again for at least six months. A majority vote in favor from both its Local Althing and the Kingdom Althing shall be required for said status to be bestowed again
To:
4.2.1.f
If a chapter chooses to remove its Core Land status, it may not become a Core Land again for at least one year. A majority vote in favor from both its Local Althing and the Kingdom Althing shall be required for said status to be bestowed again.
***Issue 3
By Jason Katzner
[
Change
4.1.1.l "All Kingdom Althing proposals shall be posted as individual thread in the "Althing" section of the official Kingdom forums, which shall be linked to the pinned post on the Kingdom Facebook group for ease of access. These threads will be used for substantive discussion of the proposals and shall be moderated accordingly to remove side conversations and other irrelevant comments."
To:
4.1.1.l "Proposals for changes to the corpora must be made as individual posts in the Kingdom of Goldenvale Facebook Group. The comment sections of such posts will be used for substantive discussion of the proposals and shall be moderated accordingly to remove side conversations and other irrelevant comments. It is the responsibility of the Prime Minister to keep an up-to-date record of all submitted proposals both on the pinned post of the Facebook Group and on the "Althing" section of the Kingdom forums."
]
******** To be voted on in November
*** Issue 1:
By Jason Katzner
[
Remove restriction of Core Land status from Principalities
PART 1
Remove 4.2.1.a.d "[Core Lands] are not a part of a Principality."
PART 2A:
Change 4.2.1.b.b to "Run and vote for Kingdom Office if not in a Principality."
Change 4.2.1.b.c to "Run and vote for Kingdom Board of Directors if not in a Principality."
PART 2B:
Change 4.2.1.b.b to "Run for Kingdom Office if not in a Principality, vote for Kingdom Office."
Change 4.2.1.b.b to "Run for Kingdom Board of Directors if not in a Principality, vote for Kingdom Board of Directors."
Parts 2A and 2B are contingent on Part 1 passing.
Part 2A and 2B are mutually exclusive. One or the other may pass, or neither, but not both.
]
***Issue 2:
By Jason Katzner
[
Remove 4.2.1.a.c "[Core Lands] are in New England, New York, New Jersey, and other parks by vote of the current Core Lands."
]
***Issue 3:
By Joe Wright
[
Add:
9.5.23 Principalities have the right to vote on corpora changes on sections they are required to follow in the Kingdom of Goldenvale Corpora.
9.5.23.A Members of Principalities are able to suggest changes to the Kingdom of Goldenvale Corpora on sections they are required to follow.
]
***Issue 4:
By Joe Wright
[
Change:
5.2.8 "In order to qualify for Crown, the Crown Contestant must have a score of at least 5.0 out of 10.0 in his or her best seven (Kingdom), six (Duchy), five (Barony), or four (Shire) subcategories.
And
5.3.3 "Crown Contestants are considered to have passed this portion of Crown Qualifications by competing in at least five brackets."
To
5.2.8
"In order to qualify for Crown, the Crown Contestants entries must meet the minimum requirement of the category to pass, after that items are judged normally. Crown contestants must enter seven (Kingdom), six (Duchy), five (Barony), or four (Shire) subcategories. If Judges cannot agree if an item meets the category it was entered in the Autocrat of Crown Qualifications will make the final Decision."
5.3.3 "Crown Contestants are considered to have passed this porting of Crown Qualifications by reeving at least 5 brackets or competing in at least 5 brackets."
]
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Prime Minister Notes:
There are two items not presented here, one of them was submitted by Erik Pulis, the other by Jason Katzner.
The item by Erik contained a clause that over extended what the Corpora could do. (Dictating the actions of the Board of Directors.)
The item by Jason was a contingent vote that did not follow the process of the corpora.
Both parties have been contacted about this to try and come to a solution.
PART 1
Remove 4.2.1.a.d "[Core Lands] are not a part of a Principality."
PART 2A:
Change 4.2.1.b.b to "Run and vote for Kingdom Office if not in a Principality."
Change 4.2.1.b.c to "Run and vote for Kingdom Board of Directors if not in a Principality."
PART 2B:
Change 4.2.1.b.b to "Run for Kingdom Office if not in a Principality, vote for Kingdom Office."
Change 4.2.1.b.b to "Run for Kingdom Board of Directors if not in a Principality, vote for Kingdom Board of Directors."
Parts 2A and 2B are contingent on Part 1 passing.
Part 2A and 2B are mutually exclusive. One or the other may pass, or neither, but not both.
]
***Issue 2:
By Jason Katzner
[
Remove 4.2.1.a.c "[Core Lands] are in New England, New York, New Jersey, and other parks by vote of the current Core Lands."
]
***Issue 3:
By Joe Wright
[
Add:
9.5.23 Principalities have the right to vote on corpora changes on sections they are required to follow in the Kingdom of Goldenvale Corpora.
9.5.23.A Members of Principalities are able to suggest changes to the Kingdom of Goldenvale Corpora on sections they are required to follow.
]
***Issue 4:
By Joe Wright
[
Change:
5.2.8 "In order to qualify for Crown, the Crown Contestant must have a score of at least 5.0 out of 10.0 in his or her best seven (Kingdom), six (Duchy), five (Barony), or four (Shire) subcategories.
And
5.3.3 "Crown Contestants are considered to have passed this portion of Crown Qualifications by competing in at least five brackets."
To
5.2.8
"In order to qualify for Crown, the Crown Contestants entries must meet the minimum requirement of the category to pass, after that items are judged normally. Crown contestants must enter seven (Kingdom), six (Duchy), five (Barony), or four (Shire) subcategories. If Judges cannot agree if an item meets the category it was entered in the Autocrat of Crown Qualifications will make the final Decision."
5.3.3 "Crown Contestants are considered to have passed this porting of Crown Qualifications by reeving at least 5 brackets or competing in at least 5 brackets."
]
All Items Pass
Issue 1:
Y: 30
N:10
A: 5
Issue 2:
Y: 17
N: 11
A: 6
Issue 3:
Y: 25
N: 8
A: 4
6 Parks reporting in.
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Kingdom of Goldenvale October Althing, votes due 10/21/17 by 11:59 PM.
3 Items to be voted on my Core Lands.
(There are two items not listed here that people may be expecting, please see the PM notes at the end of the Althing about them.)
Exact Proposals in Brackets: [ ]
******** To be voted on in October
#AllLands
***Issue 1
Boreal Dale has petitioned to regain Core Land status and require a kingdom Althing vote per corpora rule 4.2.1.f.
All lands are able to vote on this.
#CoreLands
****Issue 2
By Eric Riddle
[
Change:
4.2.1.f
If a chapter chooses to remove its Core Land status, it may not become a Core Land again for at least six months. A majority vote in favor from both its Local Althing and the Kingdom Althing shall be required for said status to be bestowed again
To:
4.2.1.f
If a chapter chooses to remove its Core Land status, it may not become a Core Land again for at least one year. A majority vote in favor from both its Local Althing and the Kingdom Althing shall be required for said status to be bestowed again
]
I believe there should be a change in our current Corpora. I feel that why should a park that is willing gives up their Core Land Status be able to get it back if they choose to in six months, when a sponsored land must wait 1 year. This is also because 4.2.1.c, states a chapter must be sponsored by the Kingdom for at least one year prior to becoming a Core Land. So, if a park lowers its status they should have to wait just as long if not longer to get it back.
I Propose
To Change:
4.2.1.f
If a chapter chooses to remove its Core Land status, it may not become a Core Land again for at least six months. A majority vote in favor from both its Local Althing and the Kingdom Althing shall be required for said status to be bestowed again
To:
4.2.1.f
If a chapter chooses to remove its Core Land status, it may not become a Core Land again for at least one year. A majority vote in favor from both its Local Althing and the Kingdom Althing shall be required for said status to be bestowed again.
***Issue 3
By Jason Katzner
[
Change
4.1.1.l "All Kingdom Althing proposals shall be posted as individual thread in the "Althing" section of the official Kingdom forums, which shall be linked to the pinned post on the Kingdom Facebook group for ease of access. These threads will be used for substantive discussion of the proposals and shall be moderated accordingly to remove side conversations and other irrelevant comments."
To:
4.1.1.l "Proposals for changes to the corpora must be made as individual posts in the Kingdom of Goldenvale Facebook Group. The comment sections of such posts will be used for substantive discussion of the proposals and shall be moderated accordingly to remove side conversations and other irrelevant comments. It is the responsibility of the Prime Minister to keep an up-to-date record of all submitted proposals both on the pinned post of the Facebook Group and on the "Althing" section of the Kingdom forums."
]
******** To be voted on in November
*** Issue 1:
By Jason Katzner
[
Remove restriction of Core Land status from Principalities
PART 1
Remove 4.2.1.a.d "[Core Lands] are not a part of a Principality."
PART 2A:
Change 4.2.1.b.b to "Run and vote for Kingdom Office if not in a Principality."
Change 4.2.1.b.c to "Run and vote for Kingdom Board of Directors if not in a Principality."
PART 2B:
Change 4.2.1.b.b to "Run for Kingdom Office if not in a Principality, vote for Kingdom Office."
Change 4.2.1.b.b to "Run for Kingdom Board of Directors if not in a Principality, vote for Kingdom Board of Directors."
Parts 2A and 2B are contingent on Part 1 passing.
Part 2A and 2B are mutually exclusive. One or the other may pass, or neither, but not both.
]
***Issue 2:
By Jason Katzner
[
Remove 4.2.1.a.c "[Core Lands] are in New England, New York, New Jersey, and other parks by vote of the current Core Lands."
]
***Issue 3:
By Joe Wright
[
Add:
9.5.23 Principalities have the right to vote on corpora changes on sections they are required to follow in the Kingdom of Goldenvale Corpora.
9.5.23.A Members of Principalities are able to suggest changes to the Kingdom of Goldenvale Corpora on sections they are required to follow.
]
***Issue 4:
By Joe Wright
[
Change:
5.2.8 "In order to qualify for Crown, the Crown Contestant must have a score of at least 5.0 out of 10.0 in his or her best seven (Kingdom), six (Duchy), five (Barony), or four (Shire) subcategories.
And
5.3.3 "Crown Contestants are considered to have passed this portion of Crown Qualifications by competing in at least five brackets."
To
5.2.8
"In order to qualify for Crown, the Crown Contestants entries must meet the minimum requirement of the category to pass, after that items are judged normally. Crown contestants must enter seven (Kingdom), six (Duchy), five (Barony), or four (Shire) subcategories. If Judges cannot agree if an item meets the category it was entered in the Autocrat of Crown Qualifications will make the final Decision."
5.3.3 "Crown Contestants are considered to have passed this porting of Crown Qualifications by reeving at least 5 brackets or competing in at least 5 brackets."
]
-----------------
Prime Minister Notes:
There are two items not presented here, one of them was submitted by Erik Pulis, the other by Jason Katzner.
The item by Erik contained a clause that over extended what the Corpora could do. (Dictating the actions of the Board of Directors.)
The item by Jason was a contingent vote that did not follow the process of the corpora.
Both parties have been contacted about this to try and come to a solution.
PART 1
Remove 4.2.1.a.d "[Core Lands] are not a part of a Principality."
PART 2A:
Change 4.2.1.b.b to "Run and vote for Kingdom Office if not in a Principality."
Change 4.2.1.b.c to "Run and vote for Kingdom Board of Directors if not in a Principality."
PART 2B:
Change 4.2.1.b.b to "Run for Kingdom Office if not in a Principality, vote for Kingdom Office."
Change 4.2.1.b.b to "Run for Kingdom Board of Directors if not in a Principality, vote for Kingdom Board of Directors."
Parts 2A and 2B are contingent on Part 1 passing.
Part 2A and 2B are mutually exclusive. One or the other may pass, or neither, but not both.
]
***Issue 2:
By Jason Katzner
[
Remove 4.2.1.a.c "[Core Lands] are in New England, New York, New Jersey, and other parks by vote of the current Core Lands."
]
***Issue 3:
By Joe Wright
[
Add:
9.5.23 Principalities have the right to vote on corpora changes on sections they are required to follow in the Kingdom of Goldenvale Corpora.
9.5.23.A Members of Principalities are able to suggest changes to the Kingdom of Goldenvale Corpora on sections they are required to follow.
]
***Issue 4:
By Joe Wright
[
Change:
5.2.8 "In order to qualify for Crown, the Crown Contestant must have a score of at least 5.0 out of 10.0 in his or her best seven (Kingdom), six (Duchy), five (Barony), or four (Shire) subcategories.
And
5.3.3 "Crown Contestants are considered to have passed this portion of Crown Qualifications by competing in at least five brackets."
To
5.2.8
"In order to qualify for Crown, the Crown Contestants entries must meet the minimum requirement of the category to pass, after that items are judged normally. Crown contestants must enter seven (Kingdom), six (Duchy), five (Barony), or four (Shire) subcategories. If Judges cannot agree if an item meets the category it was entered in the Autocrat of Crown Qualifications will make the final Decision."
5.3.3 "Crown Contestants are considered to have passed this porting of Crown Qualifications by reeving at least 5 brackets or competing in at least 5 brackets."
]