celwyn
Circle of Knights
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Post by celwyn on Nov 19, 2013 15:32:46 GMT
Ok, but an althing vote - and althings are the voice of the people - said we didn't want to leave Goldenvale. What would be the reason for throwing out the althing results?
For myself, I'm willing to talk - I sent a PM to their Queen after all. I am willing to have a representative (hopefully someone who seems to be actively listening and engaged) come to our althing and present evidence that KCG has learned and has a child safety policy in place. (Because that would be good not only for us, but for all Amtgard).
I am not willing to ignore the voice of the althing and do official business. And I would probably fight anyone who wanted to just ignore the althing results. I don't believe that's how representative government works.
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Hitorimono
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I'm only here for the popcorn.
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Post by Hitorimono on Nov 19, 2013 17:14:36 GMT
I am willing to have a representative (hopefully someone who seems to be actively listening and engaged) come to our althing Am I in some bizarro universe where the Mono who went to your Althing didn't make comments and who didn't answer questions (even if a bit vaguely at times)? I did pay attention at your Althing, stop trying to say I didn't. Oh, and to correct another bit of misinformation from before.... at the start of the Althing I put my loose rings on the ground next to me, but kept the necklace i was working on in my lap. I didn't do any work on it during the Althing itself.
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Post by jj on Nov 21, 2013 0:57:52 GMT
for me the matter boils down to this. would i feel safe taking my child to a cg event. and the answer is no. they have had repeated occurrences of things i don't want her around. i just don't feel like she would be safe there. i have also seen no effort on their part for the better part a decade to correct these things. i have no problem taking her to bc events, darkon events, or even up to something in gv, should i ever be able to schlep up there again. to be honest, if bc is forced to join cg, and they don't change their ways, i will basically be done with amtgard.
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Post by Darth Ip on Nov 21, 2013 16:56:47 GMT
No one can force BC to join KCG or any kingdom.
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yoshi
Circle of Knights
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Post by yoshi on Nov 22, 2013 17:09:00 GMT
I think one of the key things to me are that KCG is ambivalent to negative on BC joining their kingdom. You don't want to go where you aren't wanted. I really don't want to deal with the drama.
The other issues that are potentially fixable revolve around communication, good responsible decision making, judicious use of authority, and transparency. Those are the things that build trust and I'm not sure there is much trust at the moment. It could easily take years before a rapport can be built between the groups. I'm patient and willing to continue to work with people (as many in our group have) and wait to see if things improve.
A problem that they probably can't fix is the google search results when you enter: amtgard maryland or crystal groves amtgard. There is a very negative site in the top three for each of those in google (I'm intentionally not linking to the site - no need to potentially improve its ranking). Having a professional job or one with a security clearance you don't really want to be associated with that. I don't think anyone would enjoy explaining to their employer about their hobby and how it is connected to this even if some of it is outlandish. Even though it's been a little over a year, that stuff is still around and can be very damaging.
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